The Photo Brigade Podcast

On this episode Robert chats with NYC-based photographer Bryan Bedder about his career, the ups and downs of the past year when an accident left him nearly paralized and his amazing recovery. Bryan specializes in portraits, news, music, celebrity and corporate events. Since 2001 he has covered major events including NY fashion Week, The Super Bowl, Occupy Wall street, Hurricane Sandy, The Tony Awards, MTV VMA's, Sundance Film Festival. His photos have appeared in many major publication's world wide. His clients include Getty Images, American Express, Delta Airlines, Fiji Water, Motorola, and Dell.

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Category:photography -- posted at: 4:20pm EST

On this episode Robert chats with photo industry veteran Peter Berberian about the business of photography. Peter’s career has run the gamut from photographer to master printer, art consultant and most recently, Director of Brand Development for Agency Access. They discuss how important branding is for photographers and much more on this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast. 

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Category:photography -- posted at: 1:08pm EST

On this episode Robert sits down with acclaimed war photographer Ron Haviv of VII Photo Agency in New York. They talk about his background in photography that led to covering conflicts and natural disasters around the world, his new book "The Lost Rolls", the business of photography, and how important it is to diversify their revenue streams in order to make a living as a photographer. They discuss social media, video work, safety, workshops, Ron’s infamous scarf, and much more on this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast! 

 

 

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Category:photography -- posted at: 2:50pm EST

On this episode Robert chats with Manhattan-based freelance photographer Stephanie Keith who covers a lot of breaking news and personal projects around NYC. They discuss starting her career, going through International Center of Photography and NYU’s photography programs, they discuss how two particular photos from the Occupy Wall Street protests went viral on the internet, the business of photography, and much more. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of the Photo Brigade Podcast. 

Direct download: 086_-_Stephanie_Keith_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 5:15pm EST

Oh this episode Robert sits down with veteran Chicago photographer Alex Garcia who’s been a staff photographer for over 20 years working for some of the top publications in America such as The Los Angeles Times and Chicago Tribune where he shared a Pulitzer Prize and won a World Press Photo Award. They talk about his background and how scored his staff positions and his recent transition into the world of freelance and commercial photography. Being of Cuban descent himself, he has a love for the country where he’s spent a significant time experiencing and documenting the culture over the years and will soon be leading a New York Times Journey to Havana in February 2016. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of the Photo Brigade Podcast.  

Direct download: 085_-_Alex_Garcia_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 3:38pm EST

Hello and welcome to the Photo Brigade podcast! It’s been a few months since we’ve last posted a podcast and thats due to a number of circumstances. September I was traveling in Europe and had a personal family emergency, October was a crazy month with Eddie Adams Workshop and Photo Plus Expo in NYC, and we’ve been working on building some great partnerships as we move into 2016…but more on that later! Speaking of Photo Plus Expo, I was able to sit down for this podcast with our pal, John Harrington, AKA the Photo Business Guru. We talked about the latest issue of his best-selling photo business bible, Best Business Practices for Photographers, about social media, contracts, and much more! Sit Back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast. 

Direct download: 084___John_Harrington_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 1:43pm EST

083 - Neil Leifer - Photo Brigade Podcast

On this episode host Robert Caplin chats with legendary sports photographer Neil Leifer about his illustrious career spanning over 5 decades capturing some of the biggest moments in sports history. He and Robert discuss his business, highs and lows, his incredible work ethic, and readiness to catch the moment. 

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Category:photography -- posted at: 12:19pm EST

082 - Peter Lockley - Photo Brigade Podcast

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with his friend and colleague Peter Lockley about his sports photography career as well as their partnership producing the Maui Photo Expedition, a luxury photography workshop that takes place at the Four Seasons in Maui, Hawaii. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast!

Direct download: peter-lockley-audio.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 6:39pm EST

On this episode Robert chats with Flipboard photo editor Steve Fine who spent nearly two decades as the Director of Photography at Sports illustrated and before that as an editor at The New York Times.  They talk about Steve's career highlights and transitioning from traditional analog media to the digital and mobile platforms of the 21st century.  Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast! 

Steve Fine is Flipboard’s first-ever photo editor where he pores through a firehose of photography from The Associated Press, Getty and Reuters to assemble vibrant galleries around breaking stories and events. When it comes to photo editing and picking the right shot, Steve Fine goes back to a piece of advice he was given early in his career: “You know it when you see it,” he says, recalling what a senior editor told him as he started working at Sports Illustrated, where he ultimately spent 17 years as Director of Photography. (Before that, he helmed the New York Times’ photo desk for nine years.) During his storied career, the Manhattanite has anchored the photographic coverage of dozens of Olympics, Super Bowls and World Series—usually at the events themselves, on the field. He’s witnessed all kinds of sports history, from Usain Bolt’s world-record sprints to Super Bowl XLII’s iconic play dubbed “The Catch.”

Direct download: 81_-_Steve_Fine_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 12:13pm EST

On this episode I chat with Brooklyn-based freelance photojournalist Natalie Keyssar about her her work in Venezuela and Ferguson documenting political unrest. We talk about her path in photography and how she pursues the projects that interest her. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast! 

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Category:photography -- posted at: 9:21am EST

On this episode Robert chats with his friend, photojournalist John Taggart, a documentary and editorial photographer based in Brooklyn, New York. They discuss his career and many recent projects including the Gay Pride Parade, Lower East Side building explosion, Baltimore race riots, and Eric Garner and Michael Brown protests in NYC.

Direct download: 079_-_John_Taggart_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 7:08pm EST

On this episode Robert chats with Daniel Sullivan, a Maui, Hawaii-based photographer currently working on his second book about the ancient Kings Highway around the island. They talk about Daniel’s beginnings as a photographer bouncing all around the world to document vanishing cultures. They talk about his gallery business he runs out of Paia where he and his wife Cara sell Daniel’s prints, rugs and other items from his world travels, as well as clothing designed by his wife. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of the Photo Brigade Podcast! 

Direct download: 078_-_Daniel_Sullivan_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 11:27am EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with PF Bentley a photojournalist, documentary filmmaker, and workshop instructor based in Hawaii. They talk about PF’s nearly two decades as a contract photographer and White House corespondent for TIME Magazine covering politics during the Clinton and Bush administrations. They also discuss his transition into video and multimedia when PF was the lead instructor of the Platypus Workshops, which trained photojournalists in the world of videojournalism production. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade podcast. 

Direct download: 077_-_PF_Bentley_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 10:33am EST

On this episode host Robert Caplin chats with Gail Mooney, Chair of ASMP and a veteran travel photographer. They talk about her career shooting assignments for the likes of National Geographic Traveler, transitioning to video, and the importance of professional organizations like ASMP.  Sit back, Relax, and enjoy this episode of the Photo Brigade Podcast!

 

Direct download: 076_-_Gail_Mooney_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 12:11pm EST

On this episode host Robert Caplin chats with travel photographer and destination workshop producer Mirjam Evers about her career, globetrotting, Photo Quest Adventures, Eddie Adams Workshop, and more! Sit back, Relax, and enjoy this episode of the Photo Brigade Podcast!

Direct download: 075_-Mirjam_Evers_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 12:10pm EST

On this episode host Robert Caplin chats with his friend and sports shooter Brad Mangin who is based in San Francisco. Brad was in New York as part of his yearly trek to Cooperstown where he gave a talk on the History of Baseball Photography at the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. They talk about Brad's career covering baseball out of the San Francisco Bay area and how he's begun publishing books on the San Francisco Giants' 2010 and 2014 World Series Champions as well as the first ever book published completely of Instagrams. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of the Photo Brigade Podcast! 

Direct download: BradMangin-PodcastAudio.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 11:16am EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chat with a big personality in the photography world, Peter Hurley, founder and lead Shabanger at HeadshotCrew.com. They talk about his background as an olympic sailboat racer and fashion model for Polo and Abercrombie & Fitch, where he met his mentor, famed fashion photographer Bruce Weber, who encourage Peter to first pick up a camera. After developing his unique style and growing his confidence and client base, Peter has built his name into a brand. On top of it all he’s created and leads a worldwide community of headshot photographers, speaks at workshops all over the world, has developed his own line of studio gear, and is putting out his first book: "The Headshot: The Secrets to Creating Amazing Headshot Portraits”. Sit back, Relax, and enjoy this episode of the Photo Brigade Podcast! 

Direct download: 073_-_Peter_Hurley-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 12:59pm EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with Boston-based photgrapher Rick Friedman. Rick’s photos have graced the covers of many Newsweeks and various other publications. We talk about how he got into the world of photojournalism without a degree from a photography school and thrived as a freelancer for so many years. We talk business, networking, his workshops, and much more in this episode of the photo brigade podcast. 

Direct download: 072_-_Rick_Friedman_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 9:40pm EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with his friend, veteran New York Times staff photojournalist and editor, Jose R. Lopez. They talk about Jose's 31-year-long career at The Times covering major news events as a photographer and supporting many amazing staff and freelance photographers as an editor on various picture desks over the years!  So sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of the Photo Brigade Podcast. 

Jose R. Lopez recently took early retirement from The New York Times as one of the 100 journalists that were offered the buyout from the Times company. In his 31 years as a journalist at The Times, he was a staff photographer for the newspaper for 16 years, which included an 8.5 year stint in the Washington bureau and covered the last three years of the Reagan administration, all four years of the Bush (41) administration and the first 1.5 years of the Clinton Administration. He returned to New York and continued to shoot a variety of assignments including 2 Olympics- 88 Winter Games in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, and the 96 Summer Games in Atlanta, GA, 5 Super Bowls, a couple of World Series, NCAA final four tournaments as well as other national and metro assignments. In December of 1995, he was sent to Bosnia Herzgovina to cover the end of the war there and the peace keeping duties that the American Military were going to take up as part of the Dayton Peace Accords. Lopez decided to become a picture editor as he felt he could better use his wisdom and talent in advocating for photographers work in the daily newspaper. He was a picture editor for the last 15 years of his career and worked on a variety of news desks. He was part of the team that won both Pulitzer Prizes in 2002 for the newspapers coverage of the Terrorist attacks of 9-11. His most recent assignment was picture editor of the digital platform, NYTNOW, the app of The New York Times. Over the course of his career, he was also an instructor in the New York Times Student Journalism Institute and taught the photojournalism aspect of this two week intensive in which 24 college journalism students, which include 4 photographers, are taught what it takes to perform at the level of a New York Times journalist. Many of his former students have gone to newspaper careers of their own as well as successful freelance careers. His time in the industry has provided him with a front row seat of the changes that the overall industry has gone through and continues to do. A native of Santa Fe, NM, he attended New Mexico State University where he holds a BA degree in journalism with a special emphasis in photojournalism. 

 

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Category:photography -- posted at: 10:18am EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with his friend Keith Bedford about his freelance career working for a plethora of editorial clients ranging from The New York Times to Reuters. They talk about Keith's new chapter as he's just accepted a staff position at the Boston Globe. They talk about Keith's path in photography and look through photos taken from presidential campaigns, around the world for NGOs, and general news from years in NYC. So sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of the Photo Brigade Podcast. 

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Category:photography -- posted at: 3:05pm EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with his his friend Eric Thayer about his freelance career covering everything from presidential campaigns, the Furgison riots, work along the US/Mexico border for various clients like The New York Times and Reuters. They also talk about how he transitioned into photography after going to school originally for writing, how his photography professor at Brooks Insitiute inspired him to take on New York City, and about the business of photography. So sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of the Photo Brigade Podcast. 

Direct download: 069_-_Eric_Thayer_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 8:35am EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with his friend Barton Silverman who just recently retired after 50 years at the New York Times covering sports. They talk about Barton's career as a staffer as well as his early days working for the New York Jets where he made some legendary images of Joe Nameth, freelancing as a fashion and wedding photographer, and eventually how he made his way on staff at The New York Times. They discuss how technology and business has changed over the past 50 years and Barton tells some great stories. So sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade podcast! 

Direct download: 068_-_Barton_Silverman_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 10:25am EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with his friend Adam Marelli about his career as an artist, photographer, speaker, workshop instructor and world traveler. Adam Marelli is an artist & photographer based in New York City. His projects explore “maestros at work,” the ancient crafts of building and design as they are handed down through generations. Whether he is photographing a master carpenter, dodging fish at a local market, or in the studio, he is constantly in search of the threads which bind our cultures together. When he is not at his drafting table, he teaches photographers, art historians and enthusiasts the lost lessons of Classical Design. He was named the “Resident Photographer” for the Leica Akademie 2012 in NYC, contributes to “Ask the Contractor” in the New York Times, was a featured lecturer at New York University, and continues to pursue projects at home and abroad. His writing have been featured on The Gothamist and in Phaidon Press. His work is represented by Invisible-Exports gallery in New York City. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast!

Direct download: 067_-_Adam_Marelli_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 10:11am EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with his friend, Fred Conrad, who just ended a nearly 40 year career as a staff photographer at The New York Times. Back when Robert was an intern in 2005, Fred was one of his mentors where they had many conversations about photography, technique, and life. Robert tagged along with Fred on a number of assignments and learned how to stay cool, calm, and collected when working on quick portrait shoot with celebrities. Fred has covered just about every sort of assignment you can imagine over his long career and we discuss his next chapter as a freelancer and all that lies ahead. So sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast!

Direct download: 066_-_Fred_Conrad_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 11:56am EST

065 - Pete Souza - Photo Brigade Podcast

On this special episode recorded at The White House, Robert Caplin chats with his friend Pete Souza, Chief Official White House photographer for President Barack Obama and the director of the White House Photography Office. They talk about his unique job that’s taken to nearly every corner of the Earth baring witness to some of the most important moments in history during both in the Obama as well as  the Regan administration decades past. They discuss how Pete met President Obama while on assignment for The Chicago Tribune years back covering his first year as a senator, which led to his book "The Rise of Barack Obama". They talk about his background, business, social media, and much more. This is a talk you don’t want to miss! So sit back, relax, and enjoy this special presidential episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast! 

 

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Category:photography -- posted at: 9:15am EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer Marc Piscotty who stopped by while in New York City for a brief visit. They talk about how he got his start in photography, his time at Western Kentucky University, his numerous internships that led to a staff newspaper position, his career at the Rocky Mountain News where his first assignment was the Columbine shooting. They also discuss how he left the Rocky Mountain News on his own terms and transitioned into freelance photography and diversified into shooting more commercial work. This  and a whole lot more on this episode of the Photo Brigade podcast. 

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Category:photography -- posted at: 2:56pm EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats the one-and-only Alyssa Adams, deputy editor at TV Guide Magazine and executive director of the Eddie Adams Workshop. Back in 1988, Alyssa and her late husband, Eddie Adams, founded this annual, tuition-free workshop that invites the 100 top students and early professional photographers, chosen strictly by the merit of their portfolios, to their barn in Jeffersonville, NY at the peek of Autumn, to participate in one of the industry’s longest-running and respected workshops. They talk about Alyssa’s background in design, how she got into the photo industry, how she and Eddie met, and they talk all about the workshop Robert attended a decade ago as a student and has since returned as a team producer. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade podcast!

 

Direct download: 063_-_Alyssa_Adams_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 10:42am EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chat with his good friend Guy Rhodes, a stellar photographer, videographer, and lighting designer based in the Chicago area. He was in New York for a visit and stopped by to chat with Robert about his career as we looked at some of his amazing photography ranging from the last Winter Olympics in Sochi, his experimental work including his wet plate, tintype work, and oh, that one time he used powered mash potatoes and strobes to fake a snowstorm for a portrait. They also discuss how his visual diversity has helped him thrive as a freelancer for over a decade. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast! ThePhotoBrigade.com/LIVE

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Category:photography -- posted at: 12:04pm EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with the formidable Joe McNally about his life, career, and the business of photography. They discuss Joe’s path from his earliest days in college, getting his feet wet as a copy boy for the NY Daily News, his growth into a trusted and proven photographer working for the likes of LIFE Magazine, National Geographic, Sports Illustrated, just to name a few. They talk about Joe’s transition from staff to freelance, editorial to commercial, and how he expanded upon his talents to also start lecturing, holding workshops, writing books, to endorsements and collaborations with brand manufactures and much more. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast. 

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Joe McNally (http://JoeMcnally.com/) is an internationally acclaimed photographer whose career has spanned 30 years and included assignments in over 50 countries. He has shot cover stories for TIME, Newsweek, Fortune, New York, Entertainment Weekly, The New York Times Sunday Magazine, and Men's Journal. He has been at various times in his career a contract photographer for Sports Illustrated, a staff photographer at LIFE, and currently, an ongoing 23 year contributor to the National Geographic, shooting numerous cover stories for those publications.

Joe was listed by American Photo as one of the 100 Most Important people in Photography and described by the magazine as "perhaps the most versatile photojournalist working today". He has been honored as a member of Kodak-PDN Legends Online, as well as being a Nikon Legend Behind the Lens. In 2010, he was voted as one of the 30 most influential photographers of the decade in an industry-wide Photo District News survey. McNally won the first Alfred Eisenstaedt Award for Journalist Impact for a LIFE coverage titled "The Panorama of War." He has also been honored numerous times by Communication Arts, PDN, Graphis, American Photo, POY, and The World Press Photo Foundation.

In the aftermath of 9/11, McNally, using the world's only life-sized Polaroid camera, created a project called "Faces of Ground Zero," which traveled through 2002, became a book, and helped generate approximately $2 million for the relief effort. It is considered by many museum and art professionals to be one of the most important artistic endeavors to evolve from the 9/11 tragedy. His fine art work is represented by Monroe Gallery of Santa Fe, and his prints are in numerous collections, most significantly the National Portrait Gallery of the United States.

He shot the first all-digital coverage of the history of the National Geographic, called "The Future of Flying," a 32-page cover story commemorating the centennial observance of the Wright Brothers' flight. The coverage was deemed noteworthy enough that it has been incorporated into the archives of the Library of Congress. In the last two years, McNally has written two books, The Moment It Clicks, and The Hot Shoe Diaries, both of which cracked Amazon's top ten list of best sellers. His advertising and commercial clients include FedEx, Epson, Sony, Nikon, Land's End, General Electric, MetLife, Adidas, American Ballet Theater, and the Wildlife Conservation Society, among others.

He's known internationally for his ability to produce technically and logistically complex assignments with expert use of color and light. As part of his teaching activities, he conducts numerous workshops around the world.

Direct download: 061_-_Joe_McNally_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 5:13pm EST

On this episode Robert chats with Pulitzer Prize winning photographer and commercial director Vincent Laforet. Robert and Vincent have been friends for over a decade and they discuss Vincent's background in photography, his transition from sports to news, from staff to freelance, from editorial to commercial, from stills to video, and back again. They talk about the importance of networking, workshops, diversifying, and the business of photography. They also learn more about Vincent’s upcoming project that’ll have him shooting aerials of major cities around the world. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this special birthday episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast. 

Direct download: 060_-_Vincent_Laforet_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 11:30pm EST

On this episode Robert chats with sports and music photographer David Bergman. David runs TourPhotographer.com and is Bon Jovi's official tour photographer. They talk about David's recent book titled WORK comprised of 3 years worth of his tour photos from around the world. David has also been moving into the world of selling fine art prints with Rock Paper Photo and they discuss his transition. They talk about David’s background, his career as a staff photojournalist for the Miami Harald and how he went freelance, moving to New York City and shooting for Sports Illustrated, Major League Baseball, and other bands and celebrities. Sit back, relax, and enjoy this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast! 

 

Direct download: 059_-_David_Bergman_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 11:11am EST

On this episode Robert Caplin chats with General Counsel of the National Press Photographers Association, Mickey Osterreicher about all things legal in the photo industry. They talk about 1st Amendment issues, photographers being unjustly arrested while covering news events, the use of drones, the shady terms of service for social media networks, all about copyright, registration, and much more!

Direct download: 058_-_Mickey_Osterreicher_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 5:17pm EST

On this second video podcast, host Robert Caplin chats with Portland, Oregon-based freelancer Craig Mitchelldyer about all things photography. They talk about the nuances of negotiations with clients, using various applications to assist in quoting for projects and licensing, Craig's background, and a whole lot more in this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast. 

Direct download: 057_-_Craig_Mitchelldyer_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 10:07am EST

On this episode Robert chats with a someone whose work inspired him to become a photographer as a kid, and that’s Eric Albrecht of The Columbus Dispatch. Robert grew up admiring Eric's work because Robert's parents subscribed to The Dispatch, a large, family-owned metro daily where Robert also interned during college. They talk about Eric’s nearly 30 years as a staffer, as well as his early days, and how a middle school chemistry class started his love for photography. They also discuss the benefits of picking up a physical newspaper and how things have changed and newsrooms have adapted in this digital age we live in. This and much more on this episode of The Photo Brigade Podcast! 

Direct download: 056_-_Eric_Albrecht_-_Photo_Brigade_Podcast.mp3
Category:photography -- posted at: 2:07pm EST

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